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Post by Oxford United on Aug 5, 2023 21:34:52 GMT -7
Mutant skaters and goalies are a thing of the past. Change the playoff appearances rule to say that any skater or goaltender may play any number of playoff games. However: - If a skater suffers a "P" or "G" injury, he cannot dress for the next game.
- If a goalie suffers an injury, he cannot start the next game (but may dress as the backup).
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Post by nash on Aug 6, 2023 22:31:13 GMT -7
Is there a relationship between games played in the regular season and the number of injury results on a player's matrix?
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Post by Oxford United on Aug 7, 2023 7:40:19 GMT -7
Is there a relationship between games played in the regular season and the number of injury results on a player's matrix? No. Every matrix type has the same chance of an Injury result: 3 in 216 for skaters, 2/3 in 216 for goalies.
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Post by nash on Aug 7, 2023 8:26:17 GMT -7
The concern I have with this approach is that a player who misses much of the season but still performs on a per game basis becomes equally as valuable in the playoffs as a full season guy with similar per game stats.
ie. Mark Stone, Cole Caufield or Jakub Vrana
On the counter to this, Mark Stone did play the full playoffs despite missing 40 games.
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Post by Oxford United on Aug 7, 2023 17:00:18 GMT -7
The concern I have with this approach is that a player who misses much of the season but still performs on a per game basis becomes equally as valuable in the playoffs as a full season guy with similar per game stats. ie. Mark Stone, Cole Caufield or Jakub Vrana On the counter to this, Mark Stone did play the full playoffs despite missing 40 games. As I've pointed out previously, the cards tell us what the player did in the regular season. For playoffs, we need a way to tell us what a player could do. A per-game basis is all we have on which to base the cards. I don't think it should matter if the skater played 20 or 80 games. There are no mutant cards anymore, so tipping the scales with some all-shot no-penalty 5-12 range monstrosity is no longer possible. Even Daniel Sprong doesn't tip the scales the way mutants did in the 80s and 90s. So, why not assume that everyone is available come playoff time, and let fate decide if minor one-game injuries happen along the way? Each team gets the best version of itself to start the playoffs, and we write our own histories.
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Post by revelstoke on Aug 7, 2023 19:16:44 GMT -7
It'd definitely make certain players a lot more valuable. And despite less mutant cards, I can safely say that I had at least two players I wish I could have played every playoff game vs 3 or 4.
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Post by nash on Aug 7, 2023 19:22:37 GMT -7
Maybe instead of removing the game requirement, a minimum number of games allows you to play all playoff games in a round? 30 for both skaters and goalies, or something slightly different for each. I'm not stuck on the number, just giving an example.
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Post by QC Mike on Aug 7, 2023 20:38:57 GMT -7
The concern I have with this approach is that a player who misses much of the season but still performs on a per game basis becomes equally as valuable in the playoffs as a full season guy with similar per game stats. ie. Mark Stone, Cole Caufield or Jakub Vrana On the counter to this, Mark Stone did play the full playoffs despite missing 40 games. As I've pointed out previously, the cards tell us what the player did in the regular season. For playoffs, we need a way to tell us what a player could do. A per-game basis is all we have on which to base the cards. I don't think it should matter if the skater played 20 or 80 games. There are no mutant cards anymore, so tipping the scales with some all-shot no-penalty 5-12 range monstrosity is no longer possible. Even Daniel Sprong doesn't tip the scales the way mutants did in the 80s and 90s. So, why not assume that everyone is available come playoff time, and let fate decide if minor one-game injuries happen along the way? Each team gets the best version of itself to start the playoffs, and we write our own histories. But they should be possible if this is a stats based game. If Johnny Canuck joined his team for 12 games at the end of the season, scoring 48 goals on 90 shots and taking 0 PIM while playing 12 minutes a night I hope his card would be filled with auto shots and a 6-12 range because statistically, that's what he did. If his card wouldn't look like that then there's a bigger issue.
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Post by nash on Aug 7, 2023 20:58:30 GMT -7
As I've pointed out previously, the cards tell us what the player did in the regular season. For playoffs, we need a way to tell us what a player could do. A per-game basis is all we have on which to base the cards. I don't think it should matter if the skater played 20 or 80 games. There are no mutant cards anymore, so tipping the scales with some all-shot no-penalty 5-12 range monstrosity is no longer possible. Even Daniel Sprong doesn't tip the scales the way mutants did in the 80s and 90s. So, why not assume that everyone is available come playoff time, and let fate decide if minor one-game injuries happen along the way? Each team gets the best version of itself to start the playoffs, and we write our own histories. But they should be possible if this is a stats based game. If Johnny Canuck joined his team for 12 games at the end of the season, scoring 48 goals on 90 shots and taking 0 PIM while playing 12 minutes a night I hope his card would be filled with auto shots and a 6-12 range because statistically, that's what he did. If his card wouldn't look like that then there's a bigger issue.
You sound like you are asking for playoff cards, but only for the player's final team. That's a big imposition on Steve.
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Post by Oxford United on Aug 7, 2023 22:34:31 GMT -7
But they should be possible if this is a stats based game. If Johnny Canuck joined his team for 12 games at the end of the season, scoring 48 goals on 90 shots and taking 0 PIM while playing 12 minutes a night I hope his card would be filled with auto shots and a 6-12 range because statistically, that's what he did. If his card wouldn't look like that then there's a bigger issue. His card would not look like that.
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Post by nash on Aug 13, 2023 21:08:39 GMT -7
We will put this proposal to a vote since it includes wholesale changes including Skaters, as opposed to previous votes which were for goalies only.
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