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Post by QC Mike on Jul 10, 2023 10:21:47 GMT -7
Hey! These afternoon thundershowers have prevented me from doing much burning.
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Post by revelstoke on Jul 10, 2023 10:52:48 GMT -7
Looks like I'll be coming for that Slippery Skunk award next year...
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Post by nash on Jul 10, 2023 12:45:25 GMT -7
Looks like I'll be coming for that Slippery Skunk award next year... As was expected this year as well. You are too good a coach Larry. We're lucky you're not a better manager.
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Post by nash on Jul 11, 2023 11:01:06 GMT -7
I am a terrible coach.
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Post by QC Mike on Jul 11, 2023 22:03:31 GMT -7
The Slippery Skunk award went to Coach Johnson who managed his Quad Cities Quarrymen to a 6-place drop from 4th in 2021-22 to 10th in 2022-23. “All injury related,” said Johnson as he rocked back and forth and burned cards in his backyard sanctuary. Also not bad considering my PDO for the year was 96.64.
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Post by nash on Jul 12, 2023 6:51:40 GMT -7
Quoting myself here to make it look more important. Thinking about this. When my team isn't good I tend to pay less attention to coaching well. I'm not suggesting I'm anything more than an average coach, but I think the numbers are interesting. When your team doesn't look strong there isn't any incentive to succeed other than to not lose to our buddies. I'm curious that since my defensemen have started to turn the corner whether I'm going to be more of a throat-slitter.
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Post by revelstoke on Jul 12, 2023 7:00:55 GMT -7
That's really interesting... seems like regular season success doesn't always translate to playoff success, as the top two teams haven't won the championship before, I think.
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Post by alphalackey on Jul 12, 2023 17:31:58 GMT -7
Quoting myself here to make it look more important. Thinking about this. When my team isn't good I tend to pay less attention to coaching well. I'm not suggesting I'm anything more than an average coach, but I think the numbers are interesting. When your team doesn't look strong there isn't any incentive to succeed other than to not lose to our buddies. "Our buddies" is all you need during a bad year to keep you motivated. That's all I needed to want to trade three late picks for a 3/0 II just to play against Daniel. That's where rivalries have value. And even when one side of the rivarly is dominant and the other is weak, well, that's like a sportsbook setting the emotional odds. Me seriously injuring a number of Daniel's players would have been like +2000 on the emotional victory money line
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Post by alphalackey on Jul 12, 2023 17:52:36 GMT -7
That's really interesting... seems like regular season success doesn't always translate to playoff success, as the top two teams haven't won the championship before, I think. It *is* entirely possible that different rules in the playoffs (say, for player allotment and such) might skew and make certain players better in the playoffs and the regular season. Like in the old SBHL rules, a player who plays 62 games would miss 1/4 of the playoffs but would play every playoff game. Also, being able to play high SV% backup goalies MUCH more in the playoffs than the regular season, etc.
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Post by amack17 on Jul 12, 2023 18:29:59 GMT -7
I am shocked my win percentage is that high, especially considering the lack of appearances in the finals even. I guess that is the power of a McDavid, he just wins games in the regular season, but when he does not have enough depth behind him he may not be enough to carry a team to a cup. Something about that seems familiar...
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Post by alphalackey on Jul 12, 2023 18:56:58 GMT -7
I am shocked my win percentage is that high, especially considering the lack of appearances in the finals even. I guess that is the power of a McDavid, he just wins games in the regular season, but when he does not have enough depth behind him he may not be enough to carry a team to a cup. Something about that seems familiar... Only if the rest of your team is replacement-level goaltending and AHL-level defence
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Post by Shamrockville on Jul 12, 2023 19:20:58 GMT -7
I think that's what he just said Charles ;-)
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Post by nash on Jul 12, 2023 20:31:27 GMT -7
That's really interesting... seems like regular season success doesn't always translate to playoff success, as the top two teams haven't won the championship before, I think. It *is* entirely possible that different rules in the playoffs (say, for player allotment and such) might skew and make certain players better in the playoffs and the regular season. Like in the old SBHL rules, a player who plays 62 games would miss 1/4 of the playoffs but would play every playoff game. Also, being able to play high SV% backup goalies MUCH more in the playoffs than the regular season, etc. The goalie stack rule is an attempt to combat the high SV% backup goalies. Can you explain the old SBHL rule you're referring to Charles?
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Post by alphalackey on Jul 12, 2023 22:43:36 GMT -7
It *is* entirely possible that different rules in the playoffs (say, for player allotment and such) might skew and make certain players better in the playoffs and the regular season. Like in the old SBHL rules, a player who plays 62 games would miss 1/4 of the playoffs but would play every playoff game. Also, being able to play high SV% backup goalies MUCH more in the playoffs than the regular season, etc. The goalie stack rule is an attempt to combat the high SV% backup goalies. Can you explain the old SBHL rule you're referring to Charles? If you had two goalies who combined to 82 games, you could pick one as your 'starter' and roll TWICE trying to get them in, with a GP/82% chance of getting them in each time. IF you lost both rolls, the other guy got in. So let's say I have a year where Saros is 62gp of .915 and Brossoit is 20GP of .935; in the regular season, OFC, Brossoit only plays 20/82 = 24% of GP In the SBHL rule, for Brossoit to NOT start, he'd have to miss 20/82 twice in a row, so he'd now have 1-(62/82)^2 = 43% chance of playing a playoff game. Also, with the current rules where we extrapolate "regular season GP" to "playoff series GP", it's HUGELY favoring short stack players. Example. If we say a player who plays 41-50 games can play 4 playoff games in a series, with the idea that this reflects on them playing 4/7 regular season games, in fact, they play FAR more than 4/7 of playoff games, because not all series go 7 games but they all go at least 4 and you can always play them 4. so with an average playoff series going 5.5 games, a 41GP player plays 41/82 = 50% of regular season games, but 4/5.5 = 73% of playoff games. Of course, I have a solution that fixes all of this, but it requires more than 10 seconds to explain, so I know I don't have a hope in hell of it passing But yeah. If you're looking for a reason? In both our leagues, playoffs skew to playing mutants more than they did in the regular season. Hell, even the much maligned Daniel Sprong will only play 75% of regular season games but 100% of playoff games, as he hit that magic 62nd game.
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Post by alphalackey on Jul 12, 2023 23:30:57 GMT -7
Okay I'm putting this in a rule proposal. The last time I brought is up it was a disaster, but A: it was decades ago and B: it had John Burns in the audience, so maybe second time's the charm?
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